Saturday, January 23, 2016

Hillary and Bernie, Sittin' in a Tree

K-i-s-s-i-n-g?

Would a Hillary Clinton - Bernie Sanders, or Sanders-Clinton ticket be possible?  To fans of Sanders, seeing Clinton as President, even with their cantankerous, opinionated but-oh-so-right Uncle Bernie as VP, would be unthinkable.

Most see Mrs Clinton as a sort of ultimate sell-out, or perhaps the ultimate mole; a closet middle-of-the-road Republican paying lip-service to progressives while accepting money from all the wrong places (ideologically speaking). A Clinton Presidency, they feel, will leave them with more of the same they endured during the Obama administration, which in their opinion deleted promised progressive goals in favor of a compromise with the political right that never materialized - in fact, it worsened.

Clinton proponents see Bernie Sanders as a Man With Some Good Ideas, but who is too extreme to get elected.  Most Hillary fans support her because they feel she has the experience and the toughness it takes to be President.  And because they feel she can somehow work with the extremists in the political right better than Sanders - or Obama.  But they also support her by pointing to the candidates who might be our next leader if they faced Sanders in the election instead.  To many Hillary supporters, and I suspect to much of the Democratic Party, a vote for Bernie is tantamount to a vote for Trump (or Cruz), and who wants to risk that outcome?

But for Hillary fans, unlike Bernie's followers, a Clinton-Sanders ticket might be palatable.  Clinton would be the one facing off Trump (or Cruz, or Trump-Cruz), with Bernie there to bring in the progressives while remaining relatively under control.

It's fun to speculate about the top two Democratic candidates pairing up for the ticket in November, or who, if not each other, they'd choose for their running mates.  Not many people are talking about this now, but I certainly hope some bright minds in the Donkey Party are at least thinking about it.

3 comments:

Unknown said...

This is going to be interesting to see how the nomination rolls out.

I'm getting nervous. Thinking more of either candidates liabilities. And you're correct. With Hillary, I'm way more aware of how her language pays lip service to FDR ideals while indicating a solid commitment to the 90%.

I like the way you put it in your second 'graph. I've learned how President Obama had my vote, but got me to believe he was Progressive. He used a sentence structure that was open ended, and I filled in the blanks with all that Fox/Right rhetoric that he was a Liberal/Socialist/Communist/Shining Path Maoist/Martian/Kenyan...

What I want Is Sanders with the youth, energy and experience of Clinton, and in America, I think that means Clinton-Sanders.

Unknown said...

Oh, that above is me - oldironnow.

Wayne T said...

I agree OldIron. The best course for the Democratic party right now I think would be a Clinton-Sanders ticket. Clinton to hold the course where it's necessary and Sanders to be the progressive conscience and instigator. Between the two, we could hope for reasonable progress.